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Socratic Seminars

"The unexamined life is not worth living."
-Socrates

  • Socratic Seminars
  • Socratic Seminar Student Guidelines

 


Guidelines for Participants in a Socratic Seminar

1.      Refer to the text when needed during the discussion. A seminar is not a test of memory. You are not "learning a subject"; your goal is to understand the ideas, issues, and values reflected in the text.

2.      It's OK to "pass" when asked to contribute.

3.      Do not participate if you are not prepared. A seminar should not be a bull session.

4.      Do not stay confused; ask for clarification.

5.      Stick to the point currently under discussion; make notes about ideas you want to come back to.

6.      Don't raise hands; take turns speaking.

7.      Listen carefully.

8. Speak up so that all can hear you.

9. Talk to each other, not just to the leader or teacher.

10. Discuss ideas rather than each other's opinions.

11. You are responsible for the seminar, even if you don't know it or admit it.

Expectations of Participants in a Socratic Seminar

When I am evaluating your Socratic Seminar participation, I ask the following questions about  participants.  Did they….

Speak loudly and clearly?
Cite reasons and evidence for their statements?
Use the text to find support?
Listen to others respectfully?
Stick with the subject?
Talk to each other, not just to the leader?
Paraphrase accurately?
Ask for help to clear up confusion?
Support each other?
Avoid hostile exchanges?
Question others in a civil manner?
Seem prepared?

What is the difference between dialogue and debate?

  • Dialogue is collaborative: multiple sides work toward shared understanding.
    Debate is oppositional: two opposing sides try to prove each other wrong.
  • In dialogue, one listens to understand, to make meaning, and to find common ground.
    In debate, one listens to find flaws, to spot differences, and to counter arguments.
  • Dialogue enlarges and possibly changes a participant's point of view.
    Debate defends assumptions as truth.
  • Dialogue creates an open-minded attitude: an openness to being wrong and an openness to change.
    Debate creates a close-minded attitude, a determination to be right.
  • In dialogue, one submits one's best thinking, expecting that other people's reflections will help improve it rather than threaten it.
    In debate, one submits one's best thinking and defends it against challenge to show that it is right.
  • Dialogue calls for temporarily suspending one's beliefs.
    Debate calls for investing wholeheartedly in one's beliefs.
  • In dialogue, one searches for strengths in all positions.
    In debate, one searches for weaknesses in the other position.
  • Dialogue respects all the other participants and seeks not to alienate or offend.
    Debate rebuts contrary positions and may belittle or deprecate other participants.
  • Dialogue assumes that many people have pieces of answers and that cooperation can lead to a greater understanding.
    Debate assumes a single right answer that somebody already has.
  • Dialogue remains open-ended.
    Debate demands a conclusion.

Dialogue is characterized by: Dialogue

  • suspending judgment
  • examining our own work without defensiveness
  • exposing our reasoning and looking for limits to it
  • communicating our underlying assumptions
  • exploring viewpoints more broadly and deeply
  • being open to disconfirming data
  • approaching someone who sees a problem differently not as an adversary, but as a colleague in common pursuit of better solution.

 


Socratic Seminar:  Participant Rubric

 

 

A Level Participant

 

Participant offers enough solid analysis, without prompting, to move the conversation forward

Participant, through her comments, demonstrates a deep knowledge of the text and the question

     Participant has come to the seminar prepared, with notes and
     a marked/annotated text  

Participant, through her comments, shows that she is actively
 listening to other participants

    Participant offers clarification and/or follow-up that extends
    the conversation

   Participant’s remarks often refer back to specific parts of the text.

 

 

B Level Participant

 

Participant offers solid analysis without prompting

Through comments, participant demonstrates a good knowledge of the text and the question

      Participant has come to the seminar prepared, with notes and
      a marked/annotated text

     Participant shows that he/she is actively listening to others
     and  offers clarification and/or follow-up

 

 

C Level Participant

   
    
Participant offers some analysis, but needs prompting from the
     seminar leader

Through comments, participant demonstrates a general
 knowledge of the text and question

     Participant is less prepared, with few notes and no
      marked/annotated text

       Participant is actively listening to others, but does not offer
       clarification and/or follow-up to others’ comments

 Participant relies more upon his or her opinion, and less on the text to drive her comments

 

 

D or F Level Participant

 
    Participant offers little commentary

   Participant comes to the seminar ill-prepared with little
    understanding of the text and question

   Participant does not listen to others, offers no commentary to
   further the discussion       

   Participant distracts the group by interrupting other speakers or
   by offering off topic questions and comments.

    Participant ignores the discussion and its participants




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Question: (1/21/2012)
Could Hunger Games REALLY happen in today's world?
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Question: (1/17/2012)
What is a good way to word a universal theme question for Heart of Darkness on a socratic seminar


Question: (10/7/2011)
What is a good SS topic for a high school math lesson?
Answer: (10/19/2011)
death



Question: (10/3/2011)
How can you make your voice sound louder if you already have soft voice? Doesn't it makes it a problem?
Answer: (1/17/2012)
That is a major problem for a lot of people. The only solution for this is to be confident with your point of view. By standing firm behind your point, the words will come out clearly.



Question: (9/27/2011)
in the story searching for summer what is the setting of this story


Question: (9/19/2011)
what kind of questions can we ask to start a seminar?
Answer: (9/25/2011)
it depends what the seminar is about.

Answer: (9/23/2011)
what is the most seminar answer!



Question: (8/26/2011)
How do we start a seminar?
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Answer: (1/10/2012)
teach

Answer: (9/21/2011)
Ask a question

Answer: (9/7/2011)
by asking a question


Answer: (9/7/2011)
State the side your on at the moment




Question: (8/23/2011)
When you are a young pupil how does moving from house to house effect you?
Answer: (10/4/2011)
it would make you feel as if there is no RIGHT place for you, as if you didn't belong in any of the previous places where you've been.

Answer: (9/25/2011)
it could make you feel like there is less stability in your life



Question: (7/20/2011)
How do you put a quote from the book you're reading into the answer to a socratic seminar question that has to be in MLA format?
Answer: (8/4/2011)
Just write the quote within quotation marks. Put the author's last name and the page number in parenthesis, separated by a space. Ex: The speaker says, "I took the road less traveled by, and that has made all the difference" (Frost 29).



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Comments:

HarknessFan (1/28/2012)
Interesting comments and great critiques by students! It seems like a lot of the direction and angst that arises from the " student that hogs the discussion" and that doesn't allow for quiet students to participate requires the facilitator to frame the discussion or rather assess the discussion in such a way that students become aware when they hog the discussion or when they are silent. If anyone is interested in amplifying their SS discussion check out the Harkness Method via Phillips Exeter Academy, it is akin to SS on crack!


Panfishtom (1/17/2012)
My english teacher loves to use SS as an "easy grade." They are fun when you are in a small group and on a good topic, but this in not always the case. Most of the time we are in a group of 30 people and on a topic that I either can not relate to or simply do not care about. The teacher expects all of us to come up with an original point of view for a grade, but how can 30 people make their point and there still be anything left to say? Another problem with large groups is that all it takes for the topic to switch is one person with a bright idea; this leaves you sitting there with a great arguement that is no longer relevant. Now teachers are trying to catch up with the technology use of their students. It sounds like a good idea to do a SS online because most people are online anyhow, the only problem is no one actually uses sites such as Google Groups. The worst part about it is the teacher just expects you to log in without having any knowledge that there is a SS going on. Sorry to vent like this, but it is very annoying to be a student that is stressed out over school as is to have a B drop to a D over something that should be a fun activity.


Teacher NZ (12/21/2011)
I don't grade students on their SS participation or contributions. Instead, they self-evaluate throughout the year and complete a summative evaluation on their own progress in developing the skills needed for SS. I conference with students and give them feedback, but the actual evaluation is done by them. Admittedly, these kids are all in a GATE class and they do approach the self-grading responsibly.


Opressed (10/7/2011)
My teacher does this but she most always dictates the debate to be formated a certain way which hampers the transfering of ideas, terrible way to grade people, not because it hurts silent people but because it's too strictly formatted. The modern Socratic seminar doesn't deserve to have Socrates's name


MasterFoust (8/22/2011)
I think that one of the problems that many of you are pointing out, is that the socratic seminar is not supposed to be used as a summative evaluation. Socrates never intended people to be graded on their seminar participation. SS is a FORMATIVE evaluation that should be showing the instructor how well everyone is grasping concepts and forming opinions, not as a "gotcha" moment that they can use to hurt "the quiet ones." Being quiet in SS is like not turning in your homework, to an extent, but on the other hand, the teacher should not be grading you on the quality of your input.


person (8/22/2011)
great info


Sara (7/20/2011)
RE: Quiet ones. When I introduced my students to SS, I gave each student 2 poker chips to "spend" in the discussion. Quiet students were able to get their "two chips" in a little better.


Hailey (7/20/2011)
I really hate socratic seminars. They force you to talk to make your grade even though other students like to hog the spotlight and talk for a long time.....which makes it impossible for everyone in the circle to talk for the 30 minute time limit...I dislike socratic seminars VERY much. Waste of time in my opinion.


Stephen (6/5/2011)
As a teacher, I love using socratic seminars: To you students who are "quiet," here's something to think about. If you are quiet, when do you think you will ever "find your actual voice?" Your teacher is using this method to allow you to think for yourself, formulate your own opinion, and being graded on thinking rather than circling A or B as a right answer. My students appreciate this method because I can still judge their learning. If you are a quiet person, try to be one of the first people to speak. Do your best, but try to overcome your "quietness."


Juan (5/25/2011)
Socratic Seminars are not a good way for the quiet to learn because it forces them to speak even if they do not want to.


Jill (5/22/2011)
I am a mammal. Humans are mammals, therefore I might be a human, is that right?


Mike Hawk (5/6/2011)
Thanks for the info, I got 100 percent on my socratic seminar


Anon (3/29/2011)
Nisey: these are easy, i am a quiet person and all u have to do is agree with the smart people -_-


I have to do a seminar tomorro (3/17/2011)
I agree with Nisey, these are not a good way to let everyone talk...


Nisey Williams (2/16/2011)
i hate socratic seminars. my teacher is counting them as an exam grade and i don't think it's fair b/c she knows i'm quiet and people will talk over me..i already failed today's seminar b/c people wouldn't give me a chance to finish what i had to say. This isn't a great method of learning for quiet people like me...


GEEZUS (1/26/2011)
meine lieblingsfarbe ist blau!!!!


Student (12/5/2010)
Great ideas! Thanks!


A TEACHER IN CA. (11/29/2010)
our class does this every month. i think my children like it. i pretend im not there and let them do all the talking


Pat (10/31/2010)
Great ideas here. Thanks!


Jada (10/18/2010)
SSs are a great way to get students thinking about literature and to assess their understandintg. What better way to truly absorb an idea or concept than by discussing it intelligently with your peers?
I help the discussion by assigning grade based on the amount of substantial responses they contribute to the discussion.


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